So that that helped me a lot

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Daniel Burstein: You know, I love that, especially for an emerging technology. And that's kind of we're talking about what marketing Sherpa is built on. That's what this how I made it. Marketing is built on like I get pitches all the time from, we want to tell you all about artificial intelligence or marketing automation, lead generation, bubble, blah, blah, ACM and all this stuff.

And it's like, I don't care what you think about it. Show me how you did it. Right? That's all we're going to publish. I'm going to publish case studies when talk about stories, show me how you did it. And that's the exact same thing, especially for an emerging technology branding company. Stop saying how great you are, right? Just make some successes and then show everyone how you did it.

The other thing I like about that is like, I don't know cyprus whatsapp resource if you as a marketer, I'm such a sucker for a great idea, right? Like, like I like how you said it wasn't even my idea, but it was a great idea. I mean, I get pitched all the time for stuff that was sell me just everywhere. And so say getting pitch.

But boy, if I don't care where it comes from, if I hear a great idea, I'm just I just love that. I'm just like, it just draws me in. Like, it seems like you're the same kind of guy. Like, boy, when you hear that idea, doesn't matter where it comes from. I want some of that right?

Carlos Cantu: Yeah. So let me. So at some point when I was with Twitter, there was this creative studio and I was already a marketer. So that's a little bit later in my career, but I was already a marketer, but the creative director position in the studio was open and it was like, Hey, I would love to get that position.

And I talked to my manager who was in charge of both was my manager, but he was also in charge of the studio and he was, Hey Carlos, maybe actually, I think you could take that position. I can. I could give you that position. But if I give you that position, you won't have a marketer in front that will approve the ideas for you and that has been since, you know, like I realized that that's that's my my position now.